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Thats all well and good , Eric. But still a bit hypocritical. Fine - you cant take it down, but you ARE co-owner - end the flaming. Keep it as a strategy only site. You seem to be saying "well Im a christian here, but not over there". Yes, the (/eyeroll) sinners are the ones who need to be helped, but doesnt that help begin by getting them off the "path of hatred"? The site is not only nonchristian - it actively PROMOTES values that you now say you espouse. If thats true, then do something about it. You gave encouragement to that behavior now put a stop to it.

Jesus didnt tell the sinners to "go ahead go right on sinning and inf fact heres a place to keep on sinning as a group" did he? End the hatred part of the site. Again, you wont. keep it as a meeting place, but end the hate there. If you're going to embrace these values - embrace them 100% Youre in or you're out - which is it?

This is my last post on the subject as I dont want to be insulting but I do stand by these opinions.
This is the attitude that makes so many shy away from christianity or any other organized religion. The hate and contempt you display towards anyone that doesn't believe exactly as you do and won't scurry away to do as you command is shocking.

To imply that Eric is only pretending to have found a new faith in Jesus because he won't bow down to your wishes is beyond arrogance. Who are you to decide if Eric is "in or out"? If I'm not mistaken Eric's relationship with Jesus is a private covenant between the two of them and is not subject to your approval or disapproval.

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Thats all well and good , Eric. But still a bit hypocritical. Fine - you cant take it down, but you ARE co-owner - end the flaming. Keep it as a strategy only site. You seem to be saying "well Im a christian here, but not over there". Yes, the (/eyeroll) sinners are the ones who need to be helped, but doesnt that help begin by getting them off the "path of hatred"? The site is not only nonchristian - it actively PROMOTES values that you now say you espouse. If thats true, then do something about it. You gave encouragement to that behavior now put a stop to it.

Jesus didnt tell the sinners to "go ahead go right on sinning and inf fact heres a place to keep on sinning as a group" did he? End the hatred part of the site. Again, you wont. keep it as a meeting place, but end the hate there. If you're going to embrace these values - embrace them 100% Youre in or you're out - which is it?

This is my last post on the subject as I dont want to be insulting but I do stand by these opinions.
You're edging on the most non-Christian that bears the title of Christian that I can think of.

I'd love to know which divine spirit nominated you to become the overseer of fellow Christians.

When people get flustered or upset by "Christianity", its the type of garbage that people like you spew in the NAME of Christianity. You aren't being a Christian here, so please move on, or at the very least, realize what you're saying is completely wrong.
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I bet you LFJC is Alesis.

Why is it that you announce that you have found god, other peopel suddenly expect you to be a complete saint and do NO wrong whatsoever?
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I bet you LFJC is Alesis.

Why is it that you announce that you have found god, other peopel suddenly expect you to be a complete saint and do NO wrong whatsoever?

Not my point. Im saying that were I the creator of something so bad, I would take steps to correct it. Eric disagrees,or feels that he cant, and thats his right. 'nuff said.
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Quit judging him. Its not your place or business. Don't like that fact? Don't visit this site.
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Hello Eric =) And the peace of God be with you brother!


A friend of mine named Torfinn - Nexar and Morain in EQ2 - told me he had good news for my ears - that LFG had become a Christian. Of course he said that because I too have been a Christian for about 10 years now, thank God. My name in EQ2 was Cieron and I think that was my nick on eq2flames as well - that or Tandres if I remember correctly. Anyway, because I've played eq2, I of course knew who LFG was, and I am whole-heartedly thrilled whenever someone acknowledge their sins, repents and give their life to God, so I had to check out this site he referred me to. Now, this is the only post I've read so far, but I think that you Eric are LFG, correct? =) In any case, praise God and live for Jesus my brother. If there is anything you ever need, don't hesitate to ask for help.

It is great to see that you are already working, and I'll share my testimony on this site in an appropriate place next.

A word for you and everyone reading: 1 John 3:11
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Thank you very much for your kind words.
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I actually came to this site with every intention of explaining you the reality of christianity. I can't however becuase you had a reality altering event. Given your blinding flash of white light (this happened to Paul fyi although I dont think he recovered as quickly as you did.) noone can argue against this.

Just know this Eric. The majority of your piers have issues which lead them down this path. By your own words you have the cookie cutter signs of someone who had a kind of mid life emotional break down. I'm going to assume you are a smart guy and you would know the diffrence though.

All in all god is way more "REAL" than the way sunday school teaches. Since you had the same expierance Saul or "Paul" did though I would start with Romans.

I grew up with this and unfortunately know way more than the average person does about the bible how it was created ect. I even thought about being a minister. The more research I did into it though the more road blocks I hit. I'm pretty sure god exists. I'm also pretty sure your sunday school christianity has no idea what there really worshiping.

John Calvin found something interesting in the bible. He thought it was so compelling that he even went against the catholic church and eventually started his own denomination. One of the more compelling things he found was called Election or Predestination.

Its supported through Romans but more importantly through christ himself. It basically states that everyone is dead in sin. It's a miracle that anyone would actually believe in god and can only do so when god intervenes.. (Like how he did with you Eric.) Baically its stating only a very small number of people can be saved becuase he deems it so. It also states that those people can only be saved becuase he has gone in and changed there hearts..

So wait what about so for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son stuff??!?! The kicker is god so loved the world that he gave us his only begotten son so whoevere "BELIEVES" in him will not perish but have everlasting life... believes is the kicker there. God states many times that it is against human nature to believe in god after the whole adam and eve fiasco. Since god has to interve so you will believe in him and somehow allow your heart to be changed his is in control.

I had a friend that was mormon who will probably burn in hell consdering she doesnt really believe jesus is the son of god and worse yet they believe they can obtain godhood. She didnt really have much a choice when I knew her I mean she was brought up mormon. Really nice girl with more humanity and compassion than most other people I know. This is the kicker sin is all the same to god. Look at some of the christians in the bible.

Look at Paul he killed christians then came back and repented becuase god changed him and is probably sitting in heaven as I type this.

The moral of the story is god doesnt really care about all us personally. It's pretty clear biblicly he has a qouta to fill and that we shouldnt question it. He created Hell which is suppsoedly eternal punishment if he is dumping the majority of the human race there.. well doesnt that suck for the 99 percent of humantity that god doesnt intervene and save? Is it possible to reject god? Very very unlikely most christians dont understand that god calls you to spread the word to glorify him. Christians also do a great job the majority of time by turning people away anyway...



All in all Im open to being wrong here its why I posted. My view isnt very well known for a reason. Most people that come to understand it are chosen anyway and therefore dont question it. The other majority never really know anything about the bible but the spefic scriptures that they pick and choose for whatever reason. Worse yet they allow there minister/priest to tell them how god is and never really delve into it themselves.




(Fyi this is probably in the wrong section feel free to move this if you need too.)

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Not my point. Im saying that were I the creator of something so bad, I would take steps to correct it. Eric disagrees,or feels that he cant, and thats his right. 'nuff said.
It's not "bad" in the traditional good/evil sense, though it strays there in the realm of taste on a thousand times daily basis. People vent their frustrations in a relatively therapeutic manner, and everyone there can take what they dish out.

It's also something that can't be "corrected." You can't just tell everyone "Be nice, guys!!!!!!!!" when the whole point of the site was to get away from those policies on the official EQ2 forums, and shutting it down completely would just force the creation of an alternative (and Niber could whip one up in a matter of a day). It's here. It's queer. Accept it. Wait, what?

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This is the attitude that makes so many shy away from christianity or any other organized religion. The hate and contempt you display towards anyone that doesn't believe exactly as you do and won't scurry away to do as you command is shocking.

To imply that Eric is only pretending to have found a new faith in Jesus because he won't bow down to your wishes is beyond arrogance. Who are you to decide if Eric is "in or out"? If I'm not mistaken Eric's relationship with Jesus is a private covenant between the two of them and is not subject to your approval or disapproval.
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